Tesla billionaire Elon Musk smoked marijuana and discussed “cybernetic collectives” with California comedian Joe Rogan during a live interview on Friday.
During the 2-hour 37-minute podcast interview, Musk sampled a spliff containing marijuana and tobacco, saying “it’s legal, right?”
The pair discussed a wide range of topics including how climate change and artificial intelligence pose a risk to humanity. On AI, Musk said: “It could be terrible and it could be great. It’s not clear. One thing’s for sure: we will not control it.”
It’s worth noting that Musk’s views on AI have been dismissed by AI experts as overhyped scaremongering. A number of AI advances have happened in recent years but the technology can only perform certain narrow tasks, such as playing a game like Go.
Musk went on to say that platforms like Google, Facebook and Twitter are already like “cybernetic collectives” made up of people and machines.
“We’re all plugged in like nodes on the network, like leaves on a big tree,” he said. “We’re all feeding this network with our questions and answers. We’re all collectively programming the AI and Google plus all the humans that connect to it are one giant cybernetic collective. This is also true of Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and all these social networks.”
Musk, who cofounded a $1 billion AI research lab called OpenAI, added that he tried and failed to get people to “slow down” and regulate AI developments. “This was futile. I tried for years. Nobody listened.”
The serial entrepreneur said he believes the best option for humanity will be to merge with machines. ”If you can’t beat it, join it,” he said. According to Musk, we should do this by building some sort of interface that allows human brains to connect with machines. Mush has set up a company called Neuralink to work on this.
“If we can have a third layer, which is the AI extension of yourself, that is also symbiotic, and there’s enough bandwidth between the cortex and the AI extension of yourself, such that the AI doesn’t de facto separate then that could be a good outcome,” said Musk, adding that Neuralink should have “something interesting” to announce in the next few months.